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Aelin Lovelace ([personal profile] elialshadowpine) wrote2012-03-29 10:23 am

[unfiltered] Women in Urban Fantasy and Mistreatment Thereof

I love urban fantasy. I have for years. I started out with Mercedes Lackey's Diana Tregarde series, then discovered Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake books, and longed for more. For a long while, it just didn't exist. Annnnnd then it boomed.

Unfortunately, there's a pattern in urban fantasy that I have a huge problem with and has been turning me off the genre more and more. And that's the treatment of women in urban fantasy. You would think this wouldn't be an issue. After all, most urban fantasy these days features a tough, competent, kickass heroine. What could go wrong? Well, a lot of things.

Most prevalent is the overwhelming tendency to completely defang women. Hear me out. Most modern urban fantasy has a heavy romantic subplot and borrows heavily from romance tropes. Being a writer myself, I follow a lot of writing circles, and I can't tell you how many times I have heard someone say, "I have this awesome heroine, but she's so capable, she does everything! And I need to make the hero sexy! And nobody will find the hero sexy if the heroine can do better than him!"

Ignoring the obvious solution of having the hero and heroine have completely different and complementary strengths, far too many writers go for the TSTL solution. If I had a penny for every time I saw a heroine do something completely out of character... *sigh*

Like, oh, storming off for no good reason and doing something utterly stupid that nobody competent in their field would do. Usually because, well, the hero suggested it, and thus he must be wrong. And if there was a good reason for the heroine to disagree, great! But that's often not it at all. It's a matter of cutting off her nose to spite her face. It's a plot device to put the heroine in a position where the hero has to come to the rescue and save her from her own stupidity -- and frankly, this is just insulting. And it's common. Ridiculously common. And it's lazy writing.

It's one thing if, hey, the heroine runs into odds that she can't beat, or an enemy that's stronger than her, or gets outwitted by someone equally as capable. But that's not what's happening. These are situations the author is forcing the heroine into by making her act out of character for the purpose of giving the hero a moment to shine. Why not put the characters in situations where both their skills are needed? But, that wouldn't allow the heroine to be the damsel in distress, now would it?

One of the other major issues in urban fantasy in regards to women is how the heroines relate to other women. In a genre that is so focused on strong female characters, it is pretty shocking how few heroines actually have relationships with other women. Often, other women are not friends and allies, but the enemy. Often, the heroine looks down on other women. And you see the same trope over and over again -- the leather-clad dark and tortured gun-toting heroine whose strength is all physical or perhaps supernatural.

This is really just the whole "girl in the boy's club" thing rearing its head. Femininity is derided while masculinity is put on a pedestal. Rarely do we see women who enjoy feminine things, and when we do, it's usually a slight touch rather than an integral part of the character. Even Anita Blake, with her stuffed penguin collection, dismisses and derides other women. It's been a long time since I read the books, admittedly, and I haven't read the recent ones, but of the early series, all the characters that I recall her being close to were male.

(Mind, the problem is not that masculine-leaning heroines exist. The problem is that they are the sole archetype that we see commonly in urban fantasy heroines.[1])

Very few urban fantasies actually pass the Bechdel test (two women, who talk to each other, about something other than a man). For a genre that is supposedly woman-focused, that's just sad. Where are all the relationships between women? Most of us have friends who are women, mothers, sisters, aunts, etc. Where are they?

So what's the solution here? It comes down to writers being aware of the social implications their fiction will have. Because words have meanings, and stories have power. If they didn't have power, Piers Anthony's Mode books wouldn't have helped me when I was a suicidal teen, and Mercedes Lackey's books wouldn't have helped me come to terms with my bisexuality.

When even supposedly strong heroines are undermined at every turn and cannot succeed without the aid of a man, the underlying message is that of Well, if $awesomecharacter can't do it, why should I believe I can? Women are already at a disadvantage in society, with all the negative messages lobbed at us. We should be able to read fiction that empowers us, not reinforces that we are nothing without a man.

I am not saying that heroines should be all-powerful, because that would be boring. But if you're writing about a top-notch FBI agent, you don't have her forget basic gun safety. You don't have her barging into trouble without thinking about it. You don't have her so distracted by the hero's good looks that she misses the villain's move and gets trapped (and yes, I have read this). It sends a very negative message.

So how do you get around it when you need the heroine to screw up somewhere? Well, make it a believable screw-up, not something that a rookie would do (unless your character is a rookie, but most of the heroines I've seen in urban fantasy are purported to be some of the best at what they do). Or, hey, maybe she doesn't have all the information, makes a decision on what she knows, and then finds out that she was missing a vital piece of the puzzle.

But you know what I'd love to see more of? I'd love to see more heroines who get themselves out of that pickle, rather than heroines who have to be rescued by the hero. But, how do I manage an alpha hero and heroine and their power struggle without having one or the other knuckle under? Not everything has to be a power struggle, although they can be fun to write. The best alpha heroes I've read have been adept in their own field but respected the heroine in hers and listened to her opinions. But what if they're both experts in the same field? Well, hey, they're probably going to argue -- but the automatic reaction shouldn't be for the heroine to be the one who's wrong. Mix it up a little. Or hey! Maybe they're both wrong.

There's a lot of focus on alpha heroes in urban fantasy and a need to make them sexy. You know what? The sexiest heroes I've read aren't the ones who are always rescuing the artificially created dumbass heroine -- they're the ones who respect the heroine, her abilities, her strengths, and love her for who she is. The ones who aren't threatened by a strong woman. The ones who know when it's appropriate to take a backseat. The ones who know when it's time to stand their ground, and when it's time to say, "Hey, you know more about this than I do", or "I don't agree, but let's compromise." It's not an all or nothing situation.

I'd love to see more women who have relationships with other women, too. I'd also like to see a greater breadth of heroines -- heroines of color, heroines with disabilities, queer heroines, etc! Or hey, maybe not the heroine but a lady friend who is one of the above, or someone deeply involved in the story. I'd love to see more focus on this, because the lone uber!heroine surrounded by a sausage-fest is getting old.

This is something that writers have the power to change. Let's change it.


[1] I know there are exceptions to this. Please do not focus on them. This is a widespread issue, and the fact that there are exceptions does not negate that the overwhelming majority of urban fantasy heroines fits only one archetype.

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[identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
My husband is learning Gaelic. I have no idea.

[identity profile] spitphyre.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
It's good that Tor and Daw are not only the two I want to publish with but the ones I have connections to then! :P

I'm so torn on publishing on my own or through an indie publisher. It's not that I think there's anything wrong with it, it's just that I'm afraid if I do it I'll jump into it before I'm ready and I don't want to do that to myself of the work. So that, more than anything else, is why I'm clinging to the desire to (at least start with) traditional publishing. (I actually think I did do a lot of stuff with my short stories prematurely which is why I've taken a hiatus from publishing)

Re: TW: Rape

[identity profile] spitphyre.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
It took me about a week to process. I know that sounds weird but I just was so disappointed and trying to figure out if it was because I was being a bad reader or not. She wrote a post to address all the "disappointment" that was pretty much "not everyone can be happy and I like open endings" which didn't really address my problems with it but gave me pause. I eventually decided that no, my feelings were legit and not just a fan girl who was mad she didn't get what she wanted.

[identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this.

Something I've been noticing about my own writing: All my female characters pass the Bedchel test, and while most of them aere Caucasian, they are not heteronormative (in one novella, my main characters are same-sex lovers who are both bisexual). It wasn't deliberate.

My females are strong, independent, fragile but steel inside, deeply flawed, intellectual, disabled in certain ways (because I am), and in their own "club" so to speak. I don't even realize I do that. My male characters are just as fleshed out, and some of them are bisexual. I do occasionally have gender roles, but I do my best to equalize and even things out. My heroes and heroines treat each other like people, not genders.

I quit reading the Anita Blake books ages ago when it became clear that it was basically just sexist porn with Anita whining about being a girl in a boys' club, hating other women who were unlike her. I'm still a member of the LKH Lashouts community, just to learn how NOT to write my characters. If there is one author I actuall hate, it's Hamilton, and if there's one genre character I hate, it's Anita. She used to be pretty cool. Sigh.

Right now, I am completely in love with everything Seanan McGuire writes (so far, she has two urban fantasy series, October Daye and InCryptid, and the Newsflesh Trilogy as Mira Grant) and she's planning more and more stuff. The covers of her Toby Daye books are what would be coded as "traditionally masculine" (the heroine doesn't have tattoos or exposed flesh or sexy poses), unlike, say, the Mercy Thompson books (which I love to an extent).

You know, I have no clue where I was going with this...


[identity profile] everstar3.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I have to admit I love Gaelic a little bit if only because it takes everything I've ever learned about phonics and CHUCKS ITS ENGLISH ARSE OUT THE WINDOW. Welsh fascinates me for much the same reason. ("You see this ll? It's like an l, but not. Also w and y are both vowels, dd is th, and f is v. You see Afon Dyfi? Avon Duvvy. Yes really.")

[identity profile] everstar3.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I forgot to say thank you for the list! XD I'm going to have to hold on to all of these for a time when I have money.

[identity profile] everstar3.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I love Toby so hard. Her fae powers are expanding, but she's not turning into Maeve Come Again or anything, and there are consequences to them expanding. She's had to make really difficult choices and she's never blithely assured that she's right. It's one of the most frustrating things to me about the Anita Blake series: things aren't hard -- er, difficult -- for Anita. Every time she's up against something, you know it's going to lose in a big bad way. Really, the only thing there's any suspense about is which of the new characters she's going to sleep with.

(Spoilers! The answer is all of them!)

[identity profile] everstar3.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Holy crap I just started Discount Armageddon. I've gotten as far as the Aeslin mice and have had to put the book down to laugh until people asked me what was wrong.

Worth it just for the mice. OMG.

[identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
YES. AND IT GETS BETTER. I PROMISE.

(THIS BOOK DESERVES CAPS, OK??)

[identity profile] paksenarrion2.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
I wandered over here from [livejournal.com profile] seanan_mcguire's journal (and more specifically your link to look for these recs and can't give enough love to the Psy Changeling books. So based on that alone, I am sure I am going to love your other recs. Thanks!!

Because I can never have too many books in my TBR pile. my K2 is currently full and my Fire has 1,003 books and counting. Let's not discuss my realtree book collection.

edited to add-*waves from up I-5*
Edited 2012-03-30 05:18 (UTC)

[identity profile] paksenarrion2.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, Anita's magical vagina captivates everyone. Water is wet.

It's too bad because the first couple of books were really good.

[identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if you do want to look into self-pubbing, toss me an e-mail or something, because one of the forums I admin has a LOT of info about how to do self-pubbing right.

For me, self-pub or e-pub is a better option because I can't really handle the pace of NY publishing with my health the way it is. I prefer working with an e-pub, because, hey, less spoons I have to spend dealing with the fiddly stuff, but a lot of people like the DIY aspect. NY definitely has its pluses, but, it's nice that there are other options now. :)

[identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
*waves back* :)

Oh, I soooooo hear you about the TBR pile. I have so many. I should take a picture of my room sometime and post it. I literally have what is a very tall armoire (like, the types that attach to a waterbed; we didn't actually have room for it where the waterbed was going so I snagged it for my room) filled with books, one huge box of books, and two soda crates full of books.

Yeah, being able to have it all on my Nook is SO MUCH MORE CONVENIENT.

[identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVED the first books SO MUCH. They were starting to edge towards being sexier around 5 or 6 but it was in line with her character development. Obsidian Butterfly was amazing, and probably one of my favorites in the series.

Annnnnnd then there was Narcissus in Chains. Oh lordie. What pissed me off even more was that I had gotten the rest of the books through the library because I hadn't been able to save the money to buy them all -- and the first one I got in hardcover? Narcissus. -_-

And, argh, it's not that I dislike erotica or anything, cause, I actually really liked the first couple of Merry Gentry books. Because that was the character. But it just felt like she couldn't keep track of which character she was writing, and the longer the stories went on, the more Merry and Anita kinda... meshed into one person.

Lazy, lazy writing.

[identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Including more non-Caucasian characters is one I'm working on myself. I have to think about it a little more actively, and I always worry more that I'm going to fuck it up, but hey, them's the breaks. I'd rather try and fuck up and learn from the experience than play it safe and have an all-white cast.

Yeah, I'm also on lkh_lashouts because, um, well the same reason you listed, and also, I have a really bad case of trainwreck syndrome (can't look away!). *whistles*

Seanan's post about GBLT characters and some of the comments is actually what spurred this rant :) I love her work. I need to try and pick up the Toby books again, but I ADORED Discount Armageddon and can't wait for the next one. (Grabby hands! Grabby hands!)

[identity profile] spitphyre.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
I went back and forth about writing about non-Caucasain characters (especially in what I'm working on right now) and eventually decided to go with it. I decided I would rather be criticized for doing it and getting something wrong than for making a white world where some of the characters are being treated like real PoC in our world...

[identity profile] spitphyre.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I could see that being a huge draw. I am so scared of it for my own writing because I could see myself getting depressed and letting it fizzle out *looks at life* *nods* Between the assurance I would get that YES! The Story is ready! and the pressure from someone to complete stuff I think it would be good for me. I can certainly see how that might not work well for others though. It isn't always the best thing for me in other parts of my life...

I would like some help learning stuff with the charity anthology. Do they talk about anything like formatting and what to do with it... after that? :P ... Which reminds me that I keep forgetting to change those guidelines.

[identity profile] kittysaysno.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh hey this tab is still open YAY.

I've toyed with ideas in my head that would probably fall under this genre, and reading this has made me a bit more aware of a really troublesome issue in pretty much all fiction where the lead is a woman, regardless of genre. So uh, you may have just saved my future writings from a really embarrassing thing.

Though the idea of "the male lead absolutely HAS to rescue the female lead" is one that just irritates the shit out of me in general.

I do not have a more intelligent response for this other than YAY and THANK YOU.

[identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
They do indeed. I'll shoot you a PM. :)

[identity profile] paksenarrion2.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Burnt Offerings and Blue Moon were not that great but I figured every writer turns out some not that great books. Then Obsidian Butterfly came along and it was like WOW. She's back. I almost bought Narcissus in hardcover but finances were tight at the time so I borrowed it from the library-figuring I could buy it later. Thank heavens because it was a big pile o crap. And each one since just seems to have gotten worse. (Although I admit to having a bit of a soft spot for Micah-since I love the character so much).

I love well written erotica. The trouble is? Her stuff isn't well written erotica. Anita is too perfect-in the sense that she always triumphs in the end, all the men fall under her spell. She may have her own self-doubts and not see herself as perfect but everyone else does. I honestly think that Anita has become an insert for LKH.

I was never able to get into the Merry Gentry series. I read the first book and it didn't catch my interest. I think because by that time, I was becoming disillusioned with Anita Blake so I didn't want to become emotionally invested with another character who I knew was going to go horribly wrong.

One author I didn't see you recommend is J.D. Robb. Maybe because (now that I think about it) everyone in her books are pretty much heteronormative. But Eve is a kick-ass heroine who takes no prisoners. Her partner Peabody is just as amazing and there is a very strong cast of female characters in supporting roles. She strikes a good balance with the genders of the victims. And she doesn't devolve to stereotypes when the killers are women.

edited to add

And because I can't sing J.D. Robb's praises enough-the non-Caucasian characters in her books are there-I wish they were a little more plentiful-but they are organic to the story. She is one of the few authors I still buy in realtree Hardcover.
Edited 2012-03-30 07:11 (UTC)

[identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I definitely love well-written erotica (I adore Megan Hart's Order of Solace books, although I will warn there is a heavy heavy D/s theme to them... not so much outright BDSM for the most part as it is a lot of the mental power play) but the thing about LKH is that... it really isn't well written. It's like... really cheesy porn that pretends to have a plot.

I believe Merry Gentry #1 came out just before Narcissus in Chains, so I actually read it first. And I liked it, particularly the dark erotic take on faerie. But, then I saw what she did to Anita... and... >_<

Man, I always forget about J.D. Robb. I dunno why because her books are amazing! At least the ones I've read; I think I've read up to around 4? I was also thinking more along the lines of urban fantasy and going by what I had listed in my goodreads, because otherwise I can't keep track of anything -- and I have J.D. Robb shelved under SF and futuristic, whereas I have Nalini Singh under paranormal cause of the shifters. >_>

[identity profile] pewter.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
That makes me really said, I really enjoyed Hellbent, the second book and it finally felt like there was some character arc going on.

The thing about Raylene is that she is seriously competent, and knows it, but she also lives and works with her persona foibles and mental health issues. She is completely her own agent, own decision maker. She's kind of a warrior, but she's more of an investigator and thief type.

[identity profile] nolan-ash.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a low tolerance for TSTL in any genre and for characters of any gender, but it does seem pretty rampant in UF. I've only dabbled in the fringes of the genre, found nothing to suit my tastes and moved on.

But my distaste towards UF and paranormal romance isn't just the cardboard TSTL women, but the lack of diversity in the leading males. As I admitted earlier I've not read much UF or PR because I found nothing to entice me deeper, but from what I've seen, the ALPHA MALE co-lead or love interest is a must. Whether he must be more powerful than the woman lead or rescue her or not, the love interest, it seems, must be Alpha.

I really enjoyed Patricia Brigg's Mercedes Thompson character and the writing, but dayumn there was an obnoxious amount of testosterone in this, and many other paranormal books. Leading heroine aside, the cast is entirely meat-headed Alphas, jocking with each other, vying for attention, being so damn butch and dripping with machismo that I could almost smell dirty jockstraps while reading.

Sheez, authors. Are there no demure boys in your world who get some hetero love? Are there no sensitive artists among the chest-beating warriors? In this series and the Parasol Protectorate, there were some non-Alpha males to be found, but they were always A) Single or B) gay, or both. They are never happily coupled in a heterosexual relationship, perpetuating the myth of the hetero beta male.

I just don't enjoy reading alpha males, particularly in a romantic context. So like a lesbian reader forever on the hunt for a relationship that looks like hers, I'll give UF and paranormal romance a pass until I see some men who aren't alpha macho stereotypes.

[identity profile] kellicat.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a few suggestions for you if you're looking for SF/F books where the main male character's aren't alpha males, I have a couple of suggestions:

The Cornelius Quartet by Michael Moorcock: The protagonist Jerry Cornelius is no alpha male and is as content to be led as to be the leader. The alphas in this quartet tend to be women rather than men. It's hard to explain the quartet, so I'm just going to leave a link to this review here: The Hipster on the Seas of Fate.

Nevermore by Kelly Creagh: YA paranormal romance where the hero's an artistic goth and the heroine's a cheerleader and it does a really good job of exploring that kind of relationship dynamic. Plus, the paranormal elements are based on the works of Edgar Allen Poe and are actually scary. Some of the writing can be a bit awkward, but it's nowhere near as bad as Twilight and its many imitators. I highly recommend it.

[identity profile] nolan-ash.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Sweet! I'll look into those. Thanks for the recs.

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